Giuliani told Trump his claim was a joke

The lawyer, Robert Costello, said Giuliani, who is Trump’s personal attorney, phoned the president “at my insistence” earlier this week to say he was not serious when he told a reporter he had “insurance” if used as a scapegoat in the Ukraine scandal.

Iran Press/America: Trump is facing the prospect of an impeachment trial over attempts by him and his associates – including Giuliani – to pressure the Ukrainian leadership into announcing an investigation into Joe Biden, a possible presidential contender in 2020.

 “He shouldn’t joke, he is not a funny guy. I told him, ‘Ten thousand comedians are out of work, and you make a joke. It doesn’t work that way’,” Costello told Reuters.

Giuliani has said that he was being sarcastic when he made the comments. Trump, too, brushed them off, telling reporters in the Oval Office this week that “Rudy is a great guy”.

Following reports senior Republicans, in a bid to protect Trump, were considering blaming Giuliani for the White House outreach to Ukraine, The Guardian asked the former New York mayor if he was concerned about being “thrown under the bus”.

 “I’m not, but I do have very, very good insurance, so if he does, all my hospital bills will be paid,” Giuliani replied.

The report said he spoke with a slight laugh in his voice. It also said Costello interjected into the interview by saying, “He’s joking”.

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Giuliani told Trump his claim was a joke
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